Eco-Nuts are after your woodstove & UNICEF now anti-air-pollution?

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Toolsmith
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Eco-Nuts are after your woodstove & UNICEF now anti-air-pollution?

Yes, one UK government agency wants the sale of wet wood banned...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/11/people-burning-wet-w...

Who burns wet wood? Don't people buy it and season it? Will that be banned?

When did international agencies, like UNICEF, start changing their own direction? Don't they already have a job they are supposed to be doing? Isn't it fraud - misappropriation - to accept donations for one purpose and then go use those funds for something totally different?

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Carbon dioxide is plant food.

Carbon dioxide is plant food. All life depends on it. It's in our blood and when it builds up too much we exhale some to help plants grow.

Down the road when we get cremated, the water, and carbons are gone and what is left is the noncombustible minerals. Somebody gets that back in a half gallon milk carton with your name on it. Even the minerals make good fertilizer.

Al Gore got rich selling carbon crdits to people like John Baldacci. I wonder what those carbon credits are worth today.

By the way, global warming and global cooling are cused by the sun. Always have been. Look atthe Siberian core samples for valid data.

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I believe that you may find

I believe that you may find that this is taking the usual form of multi-pronged left-wing social order gang rapes. That being for the first time in ever my homeowners carrier questioned whether I burn wood, stating that I would be moved to a much higher cost policy if I did and chose to continue doing so. They may be biting off more than they can chew in that I would guess half the state uses wood at least as a supplemental heat source. Those who recall the winter of 98 likely appreciate the thought of having a supplemental heat source that depends on little more than a match. Anyone who has ever flown over the state doesn't wonder when we'll run out of wood. We have more today that we had a century ago. It won't happen anytime soon.

BTW, most people I know who burn wood buy it in the spring for the next season and rotate any carry-over to be first used.

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Ditto to Roger's comment: The

Ditto to Roger's comment: The only question to ask the climate change crowd is: "Do you know what would happen if we removed all of the carbon from the atmosphere?"

None of us are saying we should freely pollute; the US is an innovator and exporter of clean technology. Every "treaty" signed in the world exempts large polluters like China and levies heavy fees on the US - they are nothing more than ransom demands from capitalistic societies to socialistic or totalitarian societies.This is about defeating capitalism and controlling people and nothing else.

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I noticed that insurance

I noticed that insurance carriers became far more intrusive in the last year. Nonsense about wood burning, what was I doing with that shed, when was I gonna do the roof, will that pool be taken down, etc.

Never had questions like those in years past. If I wanted a homeowner's association's militant policing of my yard, I would have bought a condo or a house in suburbia. But the lefties know what's best for you everywhere and all the time.

Does anyone know of an insurer NOT doing this now?

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"Does anyone know of an

"Does anyone know of an insurer NOT doing this now?"

If so please post for all to see. I know one who is going to get canned the second someone saves me 14 cents on my policy that doesn't send some schmuck with his nose pressed to my shop window as I arrive back home.

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I've found through the years

I've found through the years that you should shop for insurance every time it comes up for renewal.
These nimwits that work for the insurance aggregator companies like Cross, for instance, will just keep renewing with the same company every year regardless of price increases, I assume, because it doesn't require any extra effort on their part.

Bruce Libby
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Amen to that.

Amen to that.
Just got smart and switched auto and home all those Liberty Mutual ads are right.

I did have problem years ago with a property that had two appliances on one flue.

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Nothing is any more of a

Nothing is any more of a socialist concept than insurance.
"Share the wealth" or "Share the risk".
What's the difference?

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The pollution they are

The pollution they are talking about is soot and unburned hydrocarbons, which don't really matter here, b/c it rains a lot.
But in climates where it doesn't rain for many months in a row, they are a real pollution threat.

Sure, it's completely stupid to burn wet wood. It could also potentially be a hazard b/c of deposits in chimneys (which would be a valid reason to ban sales, esp if people are so stupid they are burning down neighborhoods, but it's not clear that that's the case here.)

Toolsmith
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"Share the Wealth" is not the

"Share the Wealth" is not the same as "Share the Risk".

Insurance takes money to protect you from risk, but only pays money if someone suffers a loss. I prefer mutual insurance, because the money not paid out isn't taken by someone else.

Socialism just takes your money. You get nothing in return, not even protection from risk.

Toolsmith
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AC: I thought the UK was

AC: I thought the UK was pretty rainy... so it seemed very odd that they'd be that worried about particulates. Though burning coal did cause some pretty thick "fog" in years past...

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Insurance allows idiots to

Insurance allows idiots to take unnecessary risks and be covered if they screw up.
Insurance allows poor drivers to continue driving.
Insurance allows the health care industry to raise their rates to record high levels.
Insurance companies and their lawyers are scum of the earth as far as I'm concerned.

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@Toolsmith: "AC: I thought

@Toolsmith: "AC: I thought the UK was pretty rainy... so it seemed very odd that they'd be that worried about particulates. Though burning coal did cause some pretty thick "fog" in years past..."

I've never lived there and I can't be bothered to look it up, but I assume it's similar to the weather in the Pacific NW. So, while it rains all winter, it goes for long stretches in the summer where there is no rain (as opposed to here, where you get high humidity type thunderstorms).

So I am referring to the long stretches with no rain where it would matter (not in the rainy winters). Then again, you would probably mostly burn wood in the wintertime.

In any event, as I mentioned, the bigger risk I would think would be chimneys collecting soot being a fire hazard.

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