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Mike G
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https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/i-was-banned-for-life-f...

For lack of a more precise starting point, the election of Donald Trump did away with our near-universal agreement over the right to speak, driven by a false belief that too much free speech helped Trump get elected. Large numbers of Americans began not just to tolerate, but to demand censorship. They wanted universities to deplatform speakers they did not agree with, giggling over the old-timey First Amendment and taunting “conservatives” for not being able to do anything about it. But the most startling change came within the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which once embodied “defend the right, not the content” when it stood up for the free speech rights of Nazis in the 1970s.

Not anymore.

Here are some more ramblings as you call them Bruce

https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/08/08/challenging-the-lords-of-...

Even more ominously, it was revealed that a direct threat had been made to these companies by Sen. Mark Warner (D-Virginia), who sent out a memo listing all the ways the government could crack down on Big Data if they refuse to go along with cleansing the internet of “divisive” material.

So much for the “libertarian” argument that these companies and the platforms they run are “private,” and not connected in any way to the governmental Leviathan.

My record keeps skipping again

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Mike I have usually

Mike I have usually understood your rants after all the, assumed necessary by you repetitions. , ( I'll give you 3 or 4) trying to be kind here , I understand them first time out. Agreement might be another thing.
Now we have reached the point where we disagree. Any further is totally unproductive . Your posts mentioning me are now being used not to further any point.
I leave this thread with the these point
Basically the alleged censorship conspiracy etc. is unfortunate but not unexpected in this political climate I . note no one posted an "I am shocked" when this first started.
Unfortunately individuals can do little about the gov. end of this , all these entities however depend on
revenue streams that can be impacted by individuals by not using them.
You missed a chance to have me agree with you, not that you care, about the ACLU ( I had a successful contact with them many years ago, I also think they have become total assholes also. When I left the meeting they also thought I was one.
Given the climate did anyone really think that this wouldn't happen with AJ or any other individuals or groups ?
When one screams ,"whip me, beat Me. F_ _ _ Me , guess what ,sooner or later someone will. At least accept some responsibility for the consequence .
Sooner or later it was going to catch up with him. IMO he is still an asshole and always will be.
Choose martyrs wisely. Bad ones usually take away from the issue on the table. Regardless of the tingling feelings generated
by them.
I would still have the water tested and do not give any to the "irregulars on way with commo. gear !

P.S. I disagree with SF if he did say that about you , that would mean you donot have a purpose which you do.

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So the government and

So the government and corporations can lie and present false facts and narratives that actually kill and harm people, but assholes like AJ must be censored when they report on some of these lies.

Got it, because the government and corporations have the power.

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Your words not mine.

Your words not mine.
If your asking a question answer it yourself as you wish.

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Well let's compare the

Well let's compare the government and corporate propaganda with Jone's propaganda.

What's the presstitutes and Pompeo's current reaction to the Skilpel poisoning, Pompeos massive economic sanctions placed on Russia with nothing more than "most likely" evidence of Russia attempting to kill a pardoned Russian spy with a "deadly" poison that apparently only killed their cat. The Skilpels have never been interviewed by even the biased corporate press and apparently are alive and well, but the bloody Brits are just sure the russians did it.

The presstitutes are sure the Russians did it, that's enough evidence for the conspiracy theorist of at least 2 governments and corporate mouth pieces of these same governments

We could compare the Brits and US gear up to the Iraq War with Colon Powell lying before the UN with his little white vial and aerial photos of mobile labs and aluminum tubes and yellow cake, there are your conspiracy theorists, or bald faced liars. They are will to go to war at the drop of a hat against third world countries and nuclear power countries with nothing but lies.

What did that result in and currently what will this planned assault on Russia turn into? Any question or banning of the New York Times Washington Post from social media?

We can also throw in Libya and Syria, what did that lead to? massive immigration of Europe fleeing war torn middle east.

So Jones believe many school shootings are hoaxes perpetuated by the government in an attempt to repeal the second amendment, also that FEMA has containment camps for Americans when shtf, how many people has Jones killed.

Result, Jones gets to sell Iodine and vitamins.

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Jack Dorsey defends Twitter's

Jack Dorsey defends Twitter's seven day 'timeout' for Infowars' Alex Jones claiming it will make the site 'think about their actions and their behaviors'

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" . . 'We can't build a service that is subjective just to the whims of what we personally believe,' Dorsey told NBC News' Lester Holt in an exclusive interview . . "
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'We can build a service that is subjective just to the whims of what we personally believe,' Dorsey should have confessed to NBC News' Lester Holt in a nonsensical interview.

I don't know which is worse: The outright bans that preceded this or a CEO who believes it is his place to inject parental authority over his idea of a 'problem child'.

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Simple answer: AJ

Simple answer:
AJ

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As long as you aren't baking

As long as you aren't baking cakes you can deny service to anyone you please.

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And worse.

And worse.

Try wearing a MAGA hat in and see what kind of warm customer welcome you get.

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The legal defense used by

The legal defense used by Facebook was "we're a service, not a publisher... we don't edit content".

Did these services just destroy their own legal defense?

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I've never listened to or

I've never listened to or read Alex Jones.

Apart from the censoring issues by the various social media, this discussion has somehow make me even more likely never to do so.

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"we're a service, not a

"we're a service, not a publisher... we don't edit content".

and now they do, so where does that end?

I'm sure that the elite California yuppie liberal base will edit all the Trump derangement ranters, as Mainelions stated, those will sue for not baking a cake, but question the official government conspiracy propagandists, (and let's just throw all the corporate press and deep state bureaucrats), THAT, will get you censored, Especially before a mid term election.

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Mel

Mel
Even if you have not ,you have just by reading some threads here.

Your choice is wise.

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Oh no! Where am I going to go

Oh no! Where am I going to go for outlandish conspiracy theories, outright lies, and rampant missinformation?

Oh yeah, Sarah Huckleberry Sanders at the White House.

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Are you still with the Cirque

Are you still with the Cirque du Soleime?

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Oh no! Where am I going to go

Oh no! Where am I going to go for outlandish conspiracy theories, outright lies, and rampant missinformation?

Just continue to go to the MSM. You can read all about Muh Russians.

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First They Came For Alex

First They Came For Alex Jones…

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Mike G started this thread on 8/6. Infowars published their like titled article on 8/21. In addition to his great wisdom, Mike G obviously has considerable influence well beyond the pages of AMG!

Or maybe there's more to this than meets the eye?

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Time to sue Facebook again?

Time to sue Facebook again?

The legal defense used by Facebook was "we're a service, not a publisher... we don't edit content".
Did these services just destroy their own legal defense?

Now that they've decided to dive into content, the previous trial result is no longer valid.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/facebook-pages-removed-today-linked-to-russ...

Facebook locksteps with neocons and bans Russian and Iranian linked pages

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Do you suggest war against

Do you suggest war against the SMIC?

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I wouldn't want to end up

I wouldn't want to end up like Seth Rich or JFK, or have to read from an index card set before me at a news conference saying the Russians were most likely to have interfered in our election after stating the exact opposite just a few days before.

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Another view on Social Media:

Another view on Social Media:

"Social media co's should simply have to decide btwn being a publisher or a platform. If a publisher, theyre liable for everything published on their site — libel, etc. If a platform, they should be neutral. They want to be both: a publisher to censor & a platform to deny liability." —Allie Beth Stuckey (@conservmillen) Twitter

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All the major "socialist"

All the major "socialist" media accounts should be subject to being viewed as monopolies and subject to anti-trust laws. Of course these anti-trust laws were enacted before we had such congress critters as now sit in congress and who have sat in congress and the white house since who? Eisenhower?

Much of the three branches of government are so corrupt and in liege with the multinational corporations that it has become a fascist state. The corporations are doing the bidding of government to continue propaganda and censorship to enrich themselves and the all controlling state behemoth.

Promoting discourse? the new buzz word from presstitutes, other wise know as questioning official propaganda.

The term that the corporate media are nothing more than stenographers fits them quite well, and they are paid handsomely for their positions.

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No as long you aren't

No as long you aren't breaking a law you can.
Bakers were in violation of a law they knew about. The chose to be martyrs.

AJ did the same , He made it easy for them , when they came he was laying on his back.

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Unjust laws should be

Unjust laws should be challenged. The law in question is unconstitutional. What do you do when a local law violates constitutional rights? Who do you sue? Remember, you can't sue until someone *actually* violates your rights... you don't have standing to sue until that happens.

And make no mistake, there were plenty of other bakers. The affronted CHOSE this particular baker to make an example, and thereby use fear to silence others.

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Ya they knew how to deal with

Ya they knew how to deal with the situation , choose martyrs wisely and champion them wisely.

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Bruce

Bruce

At times I have no idea what you are talking about? Bakers knowing a law?

Who gives a sweet ass shit about stupid laws passed by asinine aholes? YOU DO

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Good morning Mike.

Good morning Mike.

As far as asinine assholes ,I saw a national campaign poster for their organization, nice picture Mike.

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Again, no clue as to what you

Again, no clue as to what you refer to Bruce

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That would make you clueless

That would make you clueless which to many would not be a surprise !

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